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A PCR test is used to detect simply the presence of viral genetic material in an individual. So how is a PCR test result the " final product of what the body does or does not do to fight the virus"?

Speaking of energetic septuagenarians: French adventurer, 75, dies in attempt to row across the Atlantic Jean-Jacques Savin, a former paratrooper, wanted ‘to laugh at old age’...

Wow! Amazing for someone THAT friggin' old!! Lol!

Israeli trial, world’s first, finds 4th dose ‘not good enough’ against Omicron

EU regulators warned that frequent Covid-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response and may not be feasible

34:09 Omicron and long COVID, immune escape, boosters, new vaccine types, need for a pan-variant vaccine, new treatments, future prospects etc. Earlier discussion about CDC missteps, school closures, omicron transmissibility, use of rapid tests, the "inevitabiity camp" etc.

Yeah, good luck, Gordo. Hopefully a mild case.

Not confusing. Just wrong, as McCoy has patiently pointed out multiple times.

He's not. That was the point.

Good points. Bill Gates is, of course, deeply invested in promoting additional vaccines. My point was that even a supreme vaccine-monger like Gates recognizes the distinction between viral infection and the outcome of infection (disease), while Alan Pater for some reason is stubbornly rejecting that distinction.

Alan, common language is often imprecise and confused. Science strives to do better. The scientific community makes a clear-cut distinction between the SARS-CoV-2 virus and the disease it can produce, COVID-19. Virus: severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Disease: coronavirus disease (COVID-19)  (For details on the rationale for this distinction see the W.H.O. statement here.) Just because this distinction is commonly ignored does not mean we should ignore it as well. Even Bill Gates recognizes this distinction and its critical implications: The vaccines we have prevent severe disease and death very well but they are missing two key things. First they still allow infections ("breakthrough") and the duration appears to be limited. We need vaccines that prevent re-infection and have many years of duration.# — Bill Gates (@BillGates) January 11, 2022

Alan, SARS-CoV-2 is a virus while COVID-19 is the disease it can cause. People get infected with the virus, not with the disease. Referring to "COVID infections" is therefore inappropriate. Virus: severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Disease: coronavirus disease (COVID-19) Keeping the virus/disease distinction in mind, it's not clear where you disagree with McCoy when he states:

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World’s oldest person celebrates 119th birthday in Japan nursing home

But children over 5 do. Nearly twenty percent of those kids had been vaccinated by mid-December, with rates in urban areas being far higher. In some counties it was nearly 70%. Just stating facts, not drawing any conclusions. I don't know what the current numbers are.