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Dean Pomerleau Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Mechanism, You didn't post a link or pictures (as far as I can tell) of the dried natto you bought on Amazon, but it sounds intriguing. Can you post a link? P.S. I moved your photo post to this thread. --Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dean Pomerleau Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Mechanism, The dried natto looks interesting. I expect the nattokinase will come through the drying process just fine, as should the vitamin K2. If you don't have access to asian market, this seems like it might be a good alternative to buying nattokinase & K2 in supplement form, although more expensive. Buying natto at the market definitely looks cheaper. Soybeans are about 15% moisture content (pdf), so the 70g equates of dried natto beans you purchased equates to about 80g of fresh natto. A little more than that (90g = two styrofoam packages) of fresh (frozen) natto costs under $2 at the asian market (4-packs for ~$3.50), compared with almost $11 on Amazon. I have no opinion or information on the olives or tigernuts. --Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dean Pomerleau Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Mechanism, Alright. You suckered me into it. According to [1], dried tomatoes suck, at least when comparing to fresh in terms of antioxidant content. Here are a few representative graphs from the full text comparing fresh, sun dried (SD), oven dried (OD), vacuum oven dried (VOD) and freeze dried (FD) tomatoes: If you care about antioxidants / polyphenols, you're clearly better off eating fresh tomatoes rather than dried. If you really want dried, it looks like freeze dried is the next best to fresh. As everyone almost certainly knows, cooking fresh tomatoes, particularly with oil, is best for lycopene. --Dean Food Chem. 2015 Apr 15;173:156-62. doi: 10.1016/j.foodchem.2014.09.162. Epub 2014Oct 7.Drying effects on the antioxidant properties of tomatoes and ginger.Gümüşay ÖA(1), Borazan AA(2), Ercal N(3), Demirkol O(4). Full text: http://sci-hub.cc/10.1016/j.foodchem.2014.09.162In this study, the effects of four different drying processes, sun drying (SD),oven drying (OD), vacuum oven drying (VOD) and freeze drying (FD) for tomatoes(Solanum lycopersicum) and ginger (Zingiber officinale) in terms of thiolic andphenolic contents have been studied. Thiol content, total phenolic content (TPC),ascorbic acid (AA) content, and cupric ion reducing antioxidant capacity (CUPRAC)were determined in fresh and dried samples. Glutathione (GSH) and cysteine (Cys)were determined as the thiol contents of tomatoes and ginger. Significant losseswere observed in the contents of TPC, AA, GSH and Cys and CUPRAC values in allsamples that were dried using the thermal method. There was a statisticallysignificant difference in the losses of the TPC, AA, and thiol contents betweenthe use of thermal drying and freeze drying (except Cys in tomatoes) methods.Freeze dried tomato and ginger samples have been found to have better antioxidantproperties.Copyright © 2014 Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved.DOI: 10.1016/j.foodchem.2014.09.162PMID: 25466007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dean Pomerleau Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Mechanism, I found the paper on the effects of various drying techniques on tomato antioxidants via a PubMed search for "tomato drying". --Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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