Thomas G Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 I've been using Cronometer to track what I'm eating but have not been vigilant enough to track a full month yet. In September I tried to do that. In the end there were four days where I wasn't 100% sure what I ate because of social events. I removed those four days from this report. It's not a 100% perfect record, but it is as close as I could get. I've only been keeping track of food. I haven't recorded every glass of water (so my water number is not really accurate). I've been taking a vitamin D3, vitamin B12 and a third supplement that has calcium, magnesium and zinc. I have not been recording those in cronometer so they are not included in this picture. I'd be curious if anything stands out to any of you and welcome feedback/critique/advice. I have been tracking my weight every day this year and my blood pressure and pulse every day since May. The only exceptions are days when I'm traveling. Here are those charts for all of 2016 so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlPater Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 When the below kind of comparison of nutrients derived from foods from different locales are reported, I am reminded of the importance of getting blood tests taken as well as getting CRON-O-Meter data for the overall nutrition of our diets. Treating chronic arsenic toxicity with high selenium lentil diets.Sah S, Vandenberg A, Smits J.Toxicol Appl Pharmacol. 2013 Oct 1;272(1):256-62. doi: 10.1016/j.taap.2013.06.008. Epub 2013 Jun 22.PMID: 23800687http://sci-hub.cc/10.1016/j.taap.2013.06.008"SK lentils (0.3 ppm Se) or northwestern USA lentils (b0.01 ppm Se)" Below is Al's October 3, 2016 CRON-O-Meter data. I did not know or see how it might be copied directly, but key details are below. Please provide your comments.>>>>>>>>>>>>>GeneralP/C/F/alcohol = 13/58/28/1Calories = 2300Caffeine = 320 mgWater = 3325 g>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Carbohydrates 353 gFiber = 78 gStarch = 173 gSugars = 83 g>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fat 74 gMUFA 35 gPUFA 20 gOmega-3 1.6 gOmega-6 19 gSaturated 9.3 gTrans 0.076Cholesterol 0>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Protein 85 gCystine 1.2 g = 584%Methionine 0.9 g = 177%Valine 3.2 g = 243%>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Vitamins and mineralsGenerally plenty but need to supplement several anyway, and needs for vitamin B12 and D are completely met by supplements. I wish I did not have 13.6 mg manganese intake, which is 592% of the RDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 @ Thomas: Are you using RDA values or custom for target values? I just wonder how do you manage to consistently keep Leucine and Methionine within the threshold. I just keep going beyond the RDA threshold, especially Leucine which is contained in all foods, be they vegetable or animal based. And you stand at 100% proteins target so you are not apparently practicing a quantitative restriction on proteins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 @ Al PAter: which are your other aminoacid values? I notice you have a pretty high intake of proteins (but I don't know your bodyweight) and a high intake of methionine. What about leucine? I'm focusing on these 2 aminoacids since as you guys probably know they seem to have a role in triggering the mTOR and the IIS pathways. But it beats me how is it possible to consistently stay within their RDA thresholds (as in Thomas' case). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas G Posted October 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 @mccoy, I'm using the standard values that come with Cronometer. I haven't tried to adjust them at all. It's total luck that I got 100% protein on the nose. I guess I would prefer to be coming in under. Right now I'm focused so much on the top level calorie level while trying to eat healthy "balanced" diet without too much fine tuning. I need to work my way into fine tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlPater Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Mccoy, thanks for asking. My body weight is about 110 at the moment, a BMI somewhere on the sunshine side of 18. My protein sources are mainly from beans, lentils and peanuts. Compared with eggs, they have about 35% the methionine relative to total protein. My cystine (cysteine I would call it) was quite high too and so were the branched chain amino acids. They are below: Amino acid %-----------------His 339Ile 256Leu 234Lys 203Phe 520Thr294Trp 402Tyr 312 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 @ Thomas: I'd be curious to know which foods you eat to be able to keep Met and Leu in check. Maybe I'm overestimating the importance of these two aminoacids. @PlPater: If I understand you correctly, you should weight 110 pounds=50 kilo. If you weigh 110 kilos than a BMI of about 18 would entail an height of 245 cm which would be a conspicuos outlier. Then, is there any specific reason why you are ingesting 85/55= about 1.5 gr/kg/day? That would be about twice the 95° percentile of the minimum requirement (as a random variable). But I'm assuming your day is representative, which may be not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlPater Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Thanks, mmcoy, I would be taller were it not due to a loss of about 5 inches height due to spinal compression fractures and kyphosis. It was a pretty typical diet day for me re my protein intake. My protein intake is on the high side, but I do believe that my age of 69 years merits slacking off the caloric and protein/methionine/cysteine/branched chain amino acid restriction. I wonder whether lengths of overnight fasts should also be lower in older ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 AlPAter, at 69 literature would suggest, as you probably know, that protein restriction would not be favourable to anti-aging processes. Unless perhaps in individuals who practice carbs restriction, the latter is the opinion of Dr Ron Rosedale. I find I'm able to moderate my overall protein intake but not my EAAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlPater Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 mccoy, I have the same situation despite eating vegan proteins only, notably 6 types of legumes, oatmeal and whole wheat bread. All essential amino acids were in higher RDA%s than total protein, notably cysteine, which Michael and others have said is another sulfur amino acid that pretty much has the same effect of methionine and the two amino acids should be considered in sum re effects on longevity benefits. See maybe relevant papers: Methionine-restricted diet inhibits growth of MCF10AT1-derived mammary tumors by increasing cell cycle inhibitors in athymic nude mice.Hens JR, Sinha I, Perodin F, Cooper T, Sinha R, Plummer J, Perrone CE, Orentreich D.BMC Cancer. 2016 Jun 3;16:349. doi: 10.1186/s12885-016-2367-1. Erratum in: BMC Cancer. 2016;16:474.PMID: 27255182Free PMC Articlehttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4891836/An increased need for dietary cysteine in support of glutathione synthesis may underlie the increased risk for mortality associated with low protein intake in the elderly.McCarty MF, DiNicolantonio JJ.Age (Dordr). 2015 Oct;37(5):96. doi: 10.1007/s11357-015-9823-8. Epub 2015 Sep 11. Review.PMID: 26362762Free PMC Articlehttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5005830/Conflict of interests: Mark McCarty owns a small nutraceuticalcompany, one of whose products contains N-acetylcysteine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlPater Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Below is Al's February 17, 2017 CRON-O-Meter data. For my October 3, 2016 data, above, I weighed 2 pounds more than my current 110 pounds and ate 250 more calories, a lot due to eating less fat >>>>>>>>>>>>> General P/C/F/alcohol = 13/69/17/0 Calories = 2054 Caffeine = 367 mg Water = 3355 g >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carbohydrates 371 g Fiber = 72 g Starch = 197 g Sugars = 81 g >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fat 40 g MUFA 15 g PUFA 11 g Omega-3 1.5 g Omega-6 10 g Saturated 5.9 g Trans 0.064 g Cholesterol 4.9 mg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Protein 79 g Cysteine 1.1 g = 533% Methionine 0.8 g = 156% Valine 2.7 g = 203% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vitamins and minerals: Generally plenty but need to supplement several anyway, and needs for vitamin B12 and D are completely met by supplements. I wish I did not have 12.5 mg manganese intake, which is 541% of the RDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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