mihaicl1981 Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Hello all. This CR Society is also somewhat connected with the future of society. Some of you will live actually for pretty long periods of time. All the info I have is pointing to huge inequality in the western world (US probably leading). This inequality will get even worse as AI evolves even further (and business chooses to lower costs). So far everywhere (including in my part of the world) outsourcing (China /India) is blamed. Still outsourcing is just the prequel to automation. I am afraid killing outsourcing in US (as mr. Trump claims) will bring manufacturing back to US but to the robots. Tesla for instance is by all means an American car .. but built largely by American robots and software engineers. Self-driving cars and trucks (Dean probably is the expert) will be here in 10 years or less (in US probably sooner). With the existing technology the need for humans is already pretty low . If you read Martin Ford's books (http://www.thelightsinthetunnel.com/ and https://ig.ft.com/sites/business-book-award/books/2015/winner/the-rise-of-the-robots-by-martin-ford) you will understand that even with 2009 technology level there probably is no way to beat inequality. 2009 was before Watson's demonstration in Jeopardy and before AlphaGo's success in Go (actually this alone was 10 years sooner than I expected). What worries me most is that humans are not only unemployed but also unemployable .. simply not useful anymore unless they are really , really smart. Yes as a software engineer I used to think the next 15-20 years were safe .. but with all the recent changes I am not sure at all .. So why don't we just grant anybody a basic income ? Make sure nobody (and I mean on the planet) does not drop below a certain level. Already the rich get this as dividends,rent , coupons from bonds and other forms of wealth creation As I am writing this experiments are being conducted in Finland , Canada and some countries in Asia (also in US by YCombinator). What do you guys think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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