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Temps are starting to decrease here, not much, in the region of 5 to 15 °C and I've kept wearing the same T-shirts I've been donning across the summer.

So far so good, but... this time, unlike last year, I got a running nose. Just today. That went along with subpar levels of energy and I'm pretty annoyed that it happened, since last year the immune system responded perfectly, without the least drawback.

I'm wondering now what it can be, not much has changed from last year though. I wonder if the other guys practicing CE have noticed an immunity to sickness and to what extent.

I know it's a trifle, but I was proud of my super immunity (so far!!!).

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Where I live it seems some kind of nasty cold has been hitting everyone.  My wife and kids all got it, I was optimistic, but as soon as they got better, I went down hard, had a fever for 3 continuous days and the worst sore throat of my life, pretty much lost the ability to talk, swallowing was excruciating.  I think it was probably strep throat.  Anyway, I don't do CE unless I'm 100%, but I don't think there is any evidence that it compromises the immune system, that's a myth:

https://www.verywellhealth.com/does-cold-weather-cause-the-cold-or-flu-770379

 

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Since I've been taking zinc picolinate I never get sick anymore. I've already shared my story around here when I had a zinc deficiency and kept getting colds and flu. Even with 7 nephews and nieces running around here most days, I don't catch anything.

Aside from taking zinc consistently, I also take allicin max.. although I didn't feel like it helped at all when I was low on zinc.

I also have beta glucan and take about 10 capsules a day if there are some nasty bugs going around here.

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Gordo, if you went down, then I reckon it's kind of inevitable to everyone to go down occasionally. I mean, your dietary regimen is virtually perfect and you've been practicing CE for a while. By the way, I'm absolutely convinced (by empirical experience) that CE improves the immune system, as an hormetic stressor, it doesn't compromise it at all unless other factors kick in, like malnutrition and sickness, or very negative mental bias.

I had a very running nose for 2 days and some cough and I felt strangely cold. On the 3rd day I'm apparently better off but I lost 3 kilograms of bodyweight, more than I loose usually on a water-only fast. The worst of it is that I'm getting a lot of harsh criticism from my wife, like you superman at last went down, you're not a kid any longer and so on and so forth. But that's after all the role of wives, we cannot change the order of things in the universe.

I've yet to ponder this issue at depth, there may be many reasons for such sicknesses...

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20 hours ago, Matt said:

Since I've been taking zinc picolinate I never get sick anymore. I've already shared my story around here when I had a zinc deficiency and kept getting colds and flu. Even with 7 nephews and nieces running around here most days, I don't catch anything.

Aside from taking zinc consistently, I also take allicin max.. although I didn't feel like it helped at all when I was low on zinc.

I also have beta glucan and take about 10 capsules a day if there are some nasty bugs going around here.

Congratulations Matt, I remember you wrote about the zinc issue in another thread, since how long have you been in a state of superimmunity?

I've been taking zinc for 2 years now but presently not picolinate. Is it possible that the specific zinc compound makes a difference? 

I'm also going to think about beta glucan, and probably gulp down crushed garlic more regularly.

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On 11/22/2018 at 2:11 AM, BrianA said:

Sometimes my nose just runs from being exposed to cold air. Happens often if I go mountain biking in colder weather.

BrianA, yes, I think that's a natural reaction which has nothing to do with sickness. Mine was undoubtedly an acute case of cold.

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Well, it's been about 2 years almost, but I went from very bad immunity to very good. Just before I realized I was deficient (I was getting non-stop acne breakouts and other symptoms), I got sick 3 times in a short period of time. Once that lasted 2 weeks (felt like the flu), and two other times that were only separated by weeks. The last time I was ill, I burst my eardrum and was half deaf for months.

But even before that, I was getting sick about 3-4 times a year. This was really unusual because early on when I was doing CR I rarely got sick with viral infections... I could go years without catching anything.

Which form of zinc do you take?

Comparative absorption of zinc picolinate, zinc citrate, and zinc gluconate in humans  

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3630857

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What still amazes me is the bodyweight signal:

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After the 68.3 anabolic peak, the catabolic trough was dramatic at 65.3 and I'm presently at 66.3, having regained only one third of the lost weight even though I'm continuing exercising. I have not much hunger though.

My impression is that the body strongly defends some thresholds and my attempts to go above them are met by resistance in the form of nausea, temporary anorexia, queasiness, even sickness. 

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We had a good early frost in November,  and  currently its moderately cool  (I'm looking forward to -40 C!).

      4 декабря в Красноярске

      ночь – утро  -33°  ощущается как -37°

      день – вечер-28° ощущается как -31

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Our minimum tonight was around 7 °C. Only 37 Celsius degrees of difference with Krasnoyarsk!

Today the maximum temperature hit 15 °C in the mountains, and I had a midday anti-glycaemic walk with a polynesian flowery shirt

 

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At last we had a little snow, just around freezing point, absolutely nothing like siberia  or Canada but I enjoyed walking outside in a sleevless polo shirt.

Mostly I walked under a patio and only shortly under the snow.

I find that, once full thermogenesis kicks into, cold is not perceived very much, unless it's windy. In more extreme temperatures it's probably better to don long sleeved shirts, unless your name is Wim Hof.

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