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Ending Age-Related Diseases, NYC: 7/11 - 7/12

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Hello,

i have taken a hiatus from the board in part to allow time to immerse myself more deeply in the geroscience and wellness science literature.   I thought a meetup may be a great way to re-connect and maybe learn a bit from each other.

The speakers look great and I think it would be a great venue for a de facto CR society reunion.  I also consider the attendance fee ( I have no affiliation) would be a great “donation” for a worthy cause while we celebrate some comraderie together.   It is also less effort, risk, and cost compared to more exotic get together in the past -  Kuddos to Dean for having organized Costa Rica, and I hope this NYC meeting lowers the barrier to participation and would allow and even wider participation for CR practitioners young and old.  Please consider coming - I do not know whether we will be doing this again.

Reason ( of Fight Aging!), Aubrey, Campisi, etc are coming and by the week I am hearing more longevity science aficionados shorten their week ( yes , it is a weekday meeting, give your notice now!) to make it there.  You know just how timid I am but heck, if we have a good showing and some CE practitioners attend, I might just let them goad me to try out one those fancy NYC cryotherapy treatments if available! 

Please post here your interest and see if we can get some momentum going ....  We have tried before, but this one looks like it has some real potential —- From humble beginning ~93’ CRSociety as we know it was born in 1994 , let’s make this 2019 25th anniversary one to remember celebrating with the greater LE, SENS and geroscience community in New York

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Looks like a good conference, even includes Mike giving personal anecdotes about his gut microbiome, haha. Looks like one of Saul's colleagues from U of R will be there too.  But I guess judging by the response thus far, no takers?  Not sure I want to drop $1000 for it (with expenses/hotel) though.  We could meet up in Costa Rica (again) for less 😉

 

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Sorry, I'm too poor right now. NY is a place I would have loved to visit... one of my dreams to go to NY...

And I was considering it but Google changed that overnight a few weeks ago.

But anyway, these kinds of events are happening with more frequency now, so I hope to at least get to hang out with fellow CRONies and life extensionists in the near future by visiting one of these cities and just meet up before or after the event and then explore the city. Not sure I can spend that much on attending an event. Maybe when I'm rich or at least not struggling to buy food. 😄 

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Hi Mechanism!

The best chance to get the kind of get-together that you would like, is through either Brian Delaney -- or, best, if they are interested, David Stern and Robert Krikorian -- those two arranged all of the previous CR Society meetings.

  --  Saul

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Hi Gordo, yes it does look like a great agenda, and I agree cost is the greatest deterrent for this venue.  The best case I can make for it is that it hard to have a free conference with a pre-arranged set world-class speakers, and broader community of life extension and healthy living enthusiasts to enjoy camaraderie with regardless of CRsociety tunrout.   Compared to RAADFest and most other options it could be a lot worse, especially considering lifespan.io seems have a good mission, and supporting their work for a rare splurge for something unique is not unreasonable.   It may even be favorable in some ways versus some other discretionary expenses such as perhaps forgoing a vacation and having a rare meeting-vacation with an interesting group of fellow CR members.   I think the rarity of us all getting together counts for something.

Costa Rica has its own unique opportunities as well liabilities.  I am not knocking it, and it repeats I would love to make up for my absence last time, however for some of us the barrier of international travel - psychological, perceived risk, etc. may represent a larger hurdle.  For me, some concerns have been allayed since the original trip though I would still need to figure out the asthma/allergies issue if it was held at the same place.  In my proposal I was hoping that a US-based meeting would engender wider participation than the few and proud who were able to attend Costa Rica.

Saul - you bring up the organizers David Stern, Robert Krikorian and Brian Delaney.   That's a great thought, but I think Brian has his hands full with the Age Reversal Network and his new position ( congratulations Brian!), and the sense I got was that after the disappointing turnout last CR meeting there are no plans - perhaps indefinitely - in future CR meetings.  Hence my attempt to informally invite anybody interested to come join me and hopefully others at this NYC conference.  I suggested NYC because nobody but us have been interested in Kripalu based on distance from major cities, and was under the impression that the "international travel" label with Costa Rica was too much for most of us based on the poor turnout last get-together. 

I feel like I am only scratching the surface here, and I do not have a good sense of which if any CR members maintain any interest in meeting and if so, what setting works best for them. 

Could I ask anyone who posts here at least once a year - or has followed the board  -  post here their feelings about this meeting meeting and also any interest meeting in general?  Even just a few sentences on interest and any suggestions would be most valuable.

Please in your post offer any suggestions for how a meeting can be made attractive - though without organizing speakers, food, etc. on our own because to be honest I don't think any of us are prepared to take on an organizational role.  The question is can we find a way together create a get-together meetup that would be worth attending.

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2 hours ago, Mechanism said:

Could I ask anyone who posts here at least once a year - or has followed the board  -  post here their feelings about this meeting meeting and also any interest meeting in general?  Even just a few sentences on interest and any suggestions would be most valuable.

I might be up for another get-together in a fun location. But not NYC in July.

--Dean

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Ironically, only because you mentioned Costa Rica in this thread originally, which made me think about it, I searched google flights yesterday just to price it out, and saw $314 round trip (all taxes/fees included), and hotels there with glowing reviews on tripadvisor are as low as $33/night (seriously), and the airline was offering $250 statement credit for signing up for their silly credit card (chase/united - its actually built right into their online booking system and both can be done at the same time), so a person could go there for 4 days for as little as $132!!  It's kind of absurd really, they have great, inexpensive food down there too.  Needless to say, I'm going back in August if anyone were interested (my flight is already booked, 13th-20th), but I'm not organizing anything,  too much hassle.  I'm also bringing my kids this time (age 8 and 13).  I'm grateful for your efforts!

 

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I am hoping we can have some more participation to assess interest, if any on meeting in the future. 

Dean, when you organized Costa Rica, what were the barriers to participation, did any themes emerge as you were assessing interest?

Hearing directly from the membership would be great:

a) Would you be interested in attending a CR meetup and 

b) what would / would not work for meetup that does not require extensive organization on the part of anyone?

TomBAvoider, mccoy, Sibiriak, Sirtuin, Michael R, Sthira, Brian A, drewab, mikecolella, AlPater, KHashmi317, BrianMDelaney, Genny, Kenton, Paula, Clinton, Todd Allen, Iporuru, johngonole, Ron Put, FrederickSebastian, Burak, KenB, LarryJohnson, James Cain, Cloud, Nicholaon, Gerard, etc. ( sorry if I missed you) please chime in with your interest and ideas and moreover what would or would not work for you?

Also thank you Gordo, Dean, Matt & Saul if you have any follow-up suggestions that would be great.  I could also do August CR  if it was more than just two of us and we had a decent showing... Gordo, if you are serious about opening up Costa Rica, please post details here. 

Experienced CR Society members if you think this is a pie in the sky idea that has never worked except with heroic effort please call it out - should I just give it a rest? 🙂

 

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Mechanism,

34 minutes ago, Mechanism said:

Dean, when you organized Costa Rica, what were the barriers to participation, did any themes emerge as you were assessing interest?

My experience was that it is very difficult to get a critical mass of CR folks to agree to anything!

--Dean

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8 hours ago, Mechanism said:

TomBAvoider, mccoy, Sibiriak, Sirtuin, Michael R, Sthira, Brian A, drewab, mikecolella, AlPater, KHashmi317, BrianMDelaney, Genny, Kenton, Paula, Clinton, Todd Allen, Iporuru, johngonole, Ron Put, FrederickSebastian, Burak, KenB, LarryJohnson, etc. ( sorry if I missed you) please chime in with your interest and ideas and moreover what would or would not work for you?

 

Mechanism, as much as I would like to partecipate to CR meetings and make a personal acquaintaince with other members, unfortunately I'm leaving in Europe and presently too busy to contemplate any travel to the USA, which by the way I'm looking forward to visit again in the future.

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Yea, I think some barriers you already touched on - some people have fears about traveling in general, but especially outside the US (Dominican Republic mystery illness is the latest craze, zika was all the rage a couple years ago), I think another big issue is differences in expectations and means - some want luxury only, others have no money and can't really travel at all or only on a limited budget.  Still, there was critical mass from what I've read, with conferences many years ago.  You would think the upcoming New York conf would be just about ideal on that basis, but it seems a lot of the old timers have lost interest or at least don't use the forums anymore.  With YouTube these days, you can pretty much see every longevity guru (repeatedly) at the touch of a button, maybe the novelty of in person events no longer has much allure as a result?  There's also a wide range of ages, and political persuasions which may be a factor, plus the whole "east coast" vs. "west coast" factor.  Initially there was a lot of interest in the "Dean organized Costa Rica" trip then almost everyone dropped out, some reasons I heard were: the expense, "questionable" accommodations (which turned out to be great but definitely not luxury), I think one person wanted to bring their kid but may not have felt it was kid friendly enough, there were health concerns or special needs, there was not great consensus on the dates either which is going to be the case with anything. 

I think it would be a waste of time to even attempt  CR² 2.0 if we can't even get 2 people to go to a solid longevity conference in New York 😉

 

 

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Just speaking for myself - unfortunately, I have obligations I can't ignore - so I just won't be able to take out that much time to travel ATM. It all sounds very interesting, but thems the breaks.

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A formal meeting of the CR Society, arranged by David Stern and Robert Krikorian -- which is the way all previous meetings of the CR Society were arranged --would be great.

  --  Saul

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Hi Mechanism!    Great to have you back!   I was seriously missing your always interesting contributions ( the situation being exacerbated by the Mccoy infringement issue.)   Regarding CR meetups,  unfortunately,   travel to the U.S. is really  out of the question for me at this time due to my distant location and other constraints.

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Thank you for the reply Sibiriak ( not sure what you mean by McCoy infringement, did I miss something while I was away?).  Unfortunately it appears we do not have the collective desire, will, or means as a society to get together - I think your analysis was on point Gordo, and thank you also McCoy and everyone else who has responds.  At this point I will leave it, as Saul suggested, to the CR leaders.  

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Mechanism,  I am not at liberty to comment further on the Mccoy infringement  issue as it is now the subject of an ongoing investigation.

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Mechanism -- FYI,

I would likely attend another CR Conference organized by David and Robert with relevant scientific speakers. I've been at all the past such conferences except the one in Atlanta, which didn't appeal to me partly because it appeared to be a minor attachment to a Gerontology conference and because of timing considerations unique to me. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. I'll be vacationing in the Adirondack mountains of New York state during the time of the "Ending Age-Related Diseases, NYC: 7/11 - 7/12" conference, but I wouldn't take the time from my vacation with family to travel elsewhere during that time.

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Hi Todd!  Thank you for your response. I would travel too if something was organized.  Enjoy the Adirondacks!

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Got it McCoy!  Thanks, very much enjoying your hijacks.  Enthusiasm and frequent post updates inject energy into the community and can be contagious, as we are seeing in the CE thread right now.

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For anybody in NYC tomorrow & Friday who decides to come, you can find me ( & Ms. Mechanism) at any meetup organized through this:

https://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/105946-anyone-going-to-ending-age-related-diseases-in-nyc-this-week/?p=876416

PS- If anyone has access to the reddit Longevity subreddit ( ie, https://reddit.com/r/longevity/ ), consider posting that link above 🙂

[ a worthy post for post/edit # 499 ]

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