UserReqDel20200217 Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 If my basal metabolic rate is 1000 and I eat 1 gram of fat and 1 gram of protein a day I live how long?1 gram of protein=4 calories + 1 gram of fat 9 calories=13 calories a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 You die. -- Saul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 It's easy since the above is the equivalent of water-only fasting. It depends on your present bodyweight. You can calculate an average loss of -750 grams per day the first week, then about -500 g daily loss. When you reach 35 kg you are already a corpse. Depending on various environmental and metabolic parameters, usually death by starvation may occur after 30 to 90 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted September 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, mccoy said: It's easy since the above is the equivalent of water-only fasting. It depends on your present bodyweight. You can calculate an average loss of -750 grams per day the first week, then about -500 g daily loss. When you reach 35 kg you are already a corpse. Depending on various environmental and metabolic parameters, usually death by starvation may occur after 30 to 90 days. Very low weight does not kill because this 1.73m woman has reached 18kg and has not died.https: //www.cosmopolitan.com/health-fitness/news/a48399/rachael-farrokh-anorexia-recovery-update/ A person could survive any weight by taking the weight off the active non-metabolic parts as long as he was eating at or above baseline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordo Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Fernando Gabriel said: Very low weight does not kill Are you actually arguing that it is IMPOSSIBLE for a human to starve to death? It seems like you may be suffering either from brain damage or serious mental illness. I urge you to seek help before you end up in a hospital on forced feeding or dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 14 hours ago, Gordo said: Are you actually arguing that it is IMPOSSIBLE for a human to starve to death? It seems like you may be suffering either from brain damage or serious mental illness. I urge you to seek help before you end up in a hospital on forced feeding or dead. I am not saying that hunger does not kill but that we can survive any calorie that is equal to or above BMR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBAvoider Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Looking over all of Fernando Gabriel's posts, I conclude that the boards on crsociety.org are not likely to have the answers Fernando Gabriel is seeking. Fernando Gabriel, I think this website is where your intellectual curiosity will be richly rewarded: https://timecube.2enp.com I urge you to spend your time there. Best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 22 hours ago, Fernando Gabriel said: Very low weight does not kill because this 1.73m woman has reached 18kg and has not died Heck, she was literally a living skeleton, I don't know how she was able to survive, probably because of intense medical care. a quick google search landed me to this article, where at BMI 14 people start to die, as described by Valter Longo. Below 12, they all deceased, notwithstanding medical care. Prediction of low body weight at long-term follow-up in acute anorexia nervosa by low body weight at referral Article (PDF Available) in American Journal of Psychiatry 154(4):566-9 · May 1997 with 139 Reads DOI: 10.1176/ajp.154.4.566 · Source: PubMed Cite this publication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, mccoy said: Heck, she was literally a living skeleton, I don't know how she was able to survive, probably because of intense medical care. a quick google search landed me to this article, where at BMI 14 people start to die, as described by Valter Longo. Below 12, they all deceased, notwithstanding medical care. Prediction of low body weight at long-term follow-up in acute anorexia nervosa by low body weight at referral Article (PDF Available) in American Journal of Psychiatry 154(4):566-9 · May 1997 with 139 Reads DOI: 10.1176/ajp.154.4.566 · Source: PubMed Cite this publication I arrived at bmi 12 and didn't die in January 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 12 hours ago, Fernando Gabriel said: I arrived at bmi 12 and didn't die in January 2019 You arrived at about 13 kg m-2 according to the data you wrote and and didn't die probably because someone called medical emergency. It's enough to persist a few months and death would most probably the outcome. Or very serious sickness. By the way, that's unfortunately called suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted September 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 29 minutes ago, mccoy said: You arrived at about 13 kg m-2 according to the data you wrote and and didn't die probably because someone called medical emergency. It's enough to persist a few months and death would most probably the outcome. Or very serious sickness. By the way, that's unfortunately called suicide. I posted in the wrong place unintentionally, you delete my comment please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibiriak Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 Mccoy, Fernando's posts reveal an unhealthy interest in discussing what's the most extreme calorie restriction/weight loss possible without dying. Maximal weight loss appears to be an end in itself. He hasn't expressed the slightest interest in the normal goals of CR(AN)-- slowing human aging, increasing healthspan, increasing lifespan. Example posts from Fernando: Quote What happens to eat less than your basal metabolic rate? How long would a human live with only essential micronutrients? I want to create food with 0 calories for me to eat my whole life! How Long Would a Person Eat 2000 Calories? How Long Would a Person Eat 1500 Calorie? How long would someone live eating 1000? I am doing calorie restriction, but I have heard that if you eat less than your basal metabolic rate you die, but if I eat every 20 days and always my basal rate I die? And what is the longest safe time I can do this? How long would I live if I drank 500 ml of vodka a day? If my basal metabolic rate is 1000 and I eat 1 gram of fat and 1 gram of protein a day I live how long?1 gram of protein=4 calories + 1 gram of fat 9 calories=13 calories a day. Very low weight does not kill because this 1.73m woman has reached 18kg and has not died.https: //www.cosmopolitan.com/health-fitness/news/a48399/rachael-farrokh-anorexia-recovery-update/ A person could survive any weight by taking the weight off the active non-metabolic parts as long as he was eating at or above baseline. I am not saying that hunger does not kill but that we can survive any calorie that is equal to or above BMR! I arrived at bmi 12 and didn't die in January 2019 I was 6 feet and 95 pounds in January 2019 now I have 126 pounds in September 2019 and about 15-16% fat, how many pounds can I get without dying? Frankly, I think at this point it might be better not to engage with his obsession (anorexia) any further. Of course, that's just a suggestion. MODERATORS: Please take note. Perhaps some action should be taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted September 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, Sibiriak said: Mccoy, Fernando's posts reveal an abnormal interest in discussing what's the most extreme calorie restriction/weight loss possible without dying. For Fernando, the maximal weight loss appears to be an end in itself. He hasn't expressed the slightest interest in the normal goals of CR(AN)-- slowing or reversing human aging, increasing healthspan, increasing lifespan. Example posts from Fernando: Frankly, I think at this point it's best not to engage with his obsession (anorexia) any further. Of course, that's just a suggestion. MODERATORS: Please take note. Perhaps some action should be taken. I want to have longevity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibiriak Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 Your posts indicate otherwise, Fernando. Read them--you repeatedly talk about not dying while taking CR to the ultra-extreme. Taking yourself to the edge of death is not a path to longevity. Eating once every twenty days with barely enough calories to maintain your BMR is not a path to longevity. Figuring out how to merely survive at "any weight by taking the weight off the active non-metabolic parts " is not a path to longevity. Figuring out the minimum BF required to merely survive is not a path to longevity. Dropping to a BMI of 12 is not a path to longevity. You've shown no interest in optimal health or longevity. This is not the forum for you. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Allen Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, Sibiriak said: You've shown no interest in optimal health or longevity. This is not the forum for you. Good luck. Sibiriak, thanks for stating what needed to be said. I feel similarly but wasn't willing to put in the effort to state the case as thoroughly as you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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