UserReqDel20200217 Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 I have 6 feet and 124lbs but I do not have six pack, and wanted to do a cut until you reach 7% fat, I think I have about 14% but I'm going to the nutritionist in a while, I'm doing a 30 minute aerobic low calorie diet 3x per week + 3 sets with + - 20 to 40 reps in everyday land survey That was yesterday's diet Breakfast 1 french bread Ham latte with 2 tablespoons sugar Morning snack 1 apple Lunch 10 lettuce leaves 100 grams of lean beef 50 grams fruit salad 75 grams of brown rice 1 halls package 75 grams of carrot Afternoon snack . 1 glass of milk with 2 tbsp galak 1/2 french bread Dinner 1 gnocchi skimmer 2 spoons of seven fat free 5 strawberries 1 yakult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Fernando Gabriel said: I have 6 feet and 124lbs but I do not have six pack, and wanted to do a cut until you reach 7% fat, I think I have about 14% I don't think you should consider doing a 'cut' until you first increase your body weight by adding muscle mass. In my opinion you are dangerous thin already; especially for your age. 4 hours ago, Fernando Gabriel said: latte with 2 tablespoons sugar 1 halls package Why are you putting this into your body? If you are trying to "Live the CR way" and are consuming very low calories (which, for the record, I do not thing you should be doing at your age), then you could (intelligently) displace the sugar and package of halls with the equivalent calories eating a whole (super) food like spinach and be much better off. 4 hours ago, Fernando Gabriel said: Breakfast 1 french bread Ham latte with 2 tablespoons sugar Morning snack 1 apple Lunch 10 lettuce leaves 100 grams of lean beef 50 grams fruit salad 75 grams of brown rice 1 halls package 75 grams of carrot Afternoon snack . 1 glass of milk with 2 tbsp galak 1/2 french bread Dinner 1 gnocchi skimmer 2 spoons of seven fat free 5 strawberries 1 yakult If you were to evaluate what you ate on this day for micronutrient intake you'd quickly come to the conclusion that you are greatly undernourished and likely very unhealthy. What you are doing thusfar is not supporting 'life-extension'; rather you are very likely in the process of shortening your lifespan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Clinton said: I don't think you should consider doing a 'cut' until you first increase your body weight by adding muscle mass. In my opinion you are dangerous thin already; especially for your age. +1 on that. 10 hours ago, Fernando Gabriel said: but I'm going to the nutritionist in a while, Then explain to him/her that you want to gain muscles and then achieve a six-pack. He will give you a suitably nourishing diet., to replace your miserably poor present diet. When adding muscle mass, you must eat a lot of healthy food. especially so a lot of carbs and protein. After you gain at least 22 pounds or 10 kg, then you can start to aim for the sixpack. A six-pack on a scrawny body is not that much of a sight. Edited November 22, 2019 by mccoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) On 11/22/2019 at 6:25 PM, mccoy said: +1 on that. Then explain to him/her that you want to gain muscles and then achieve a six-pack. He will give you a suitably nourishing diet., to replace your miserably poor present diet. When adding muscle mass, you must eat a lot of healthy food. especially so a lot of carbs and protein. After you gain at least 22 pounds or 10 kg, then you can start to aim for the sixpack. A six-pack on a scrawny body is not that much of a sight. My goal is to have low body fat to lower risk of diabetes, cancer and cardiovascular disease. I'm on a bulking diet until I get 130 lbs. Then I'll cut to 121 lbs. I don't mind having a six pack but having longevity. Edited November 30, 2019 by Fernando Gabriel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Fernando Gabriel said: I don't mind having a six pack but having longevity. Good, but the optimum for longevity seems to be an high enough BMI with low adiposity. Not necessarily very high, but around 22-23 kgm-2. Also, as we've been discussing, skeletal muscle has its benefits, like increased glucose uptake (anti-diabetes) and increased resilience (anti-injuries). Maybe you should practice some resistance exercise (weights or free-body) and aim as a preliminary goal for a lean 150 lbs,= 70 kg, = 20.3 kgm-2. At 6', 121 lbs = 16 kgm-2 This means decreased longevity. So I repeat, if you are looking for longevity, you should reach at least 150 lbs. 165 muscular lbs would be even better. It is easy sometimes to pursue a delusional goal like yours and try and be as skinny as possible. It is harder to pursue a really healthy goal of muscular, functional and aesthetic physique. Edited November 30, 2019 by mccoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, mccoy said: Good, but the optimum for longevity seems to be an high enough BMI with low adiposity. Not necessarily very high, but around 22-23 kgm-2. Also, as we've been discussing, skeletal muscle has its benefits, like increased glucose uptake (anti-diabetes) and increased resilience (anti-injuries). Maybe you should practice some resistance exercise (weights or free-body) and aim as a preliminary goal for a lean 150 lbs,= 70 kg, = 20.3 kgm-2. At 6', 121 lbs = 16 kgm-1. This means decreased longevity. So I repeat, if you are looking for longevity, you should reach at least 150 lbs. 165 muscular lbs would be even better. It is easy sometimes to pursue a delusional goal like yours and try and be as skinny as possible. It is harder to pursue a really healthy goal of muscular, functional and aesthetic physique. I don't understand why imc is squared if people are cubed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikii Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 If you want a cubed number you can use the new bmi. According to it you are even more underweight than by the original method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 hours ago, Mikii said: If you want a cubed number you can use the new bmi. According to it you are even more underweight than by the original method. This new imc doesn't calculate the cube just changes the healthy weight values Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 11/30/2019 at 3:33 PM, Fernando Gabriel said: I don't understand why imc is squared if people are cubed If you want an index scaled by the cube of height then there is the Corpulence Index (CI) But the BMI seems to be far more popular, aside from measuring very small babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/2/2019 at 5:54 PM, mccoy said: If you want an index scaled by the cube of height then there is the Corpulence Index (CI) But the BMI seems to be far more popular, aside from measuring very small babies. But which of these formulas is best for an 18-year-old man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 BMI is best, CI has not caught on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted December 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) I have problems with high appetite and binge eating how do I solve this? I have been going over 3000 calories for many days.I'm taking an appetite-boosting medication Edited December 8, 2019 by Fernando Gabriel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 11:29 PM, Fernando Gabriel said: have problems with high appetite and binge eating how do I solve this? I have been going over 3000 calories for many days.I'm taking an appetite-boosting medication Edited Sunday at 11:37 PM by Fernando Gabriel That's very good, 3000 kCals for a guy your age is not excessive. I would just keep eating according to hunger, but select healthy food: legumes, whole grains cereals and pasta, potatoes, cheese, eggs, vegetables, nuts & seeds, fresh fruit, especially bananas. Since you have to gain weight to be healthier, you can also indulge in some chocolate, ice-cream and calorie-dense foods. Enjoy your hunger! Just try and eat your food in many meals, not to fill the stomach too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikii Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) Quote This new imc doesn't calculate the cube just changes the healthy weight values It had the same objection to the old bmi as you, but determined that the best exponent is actually 2.5. Using a cube would raise the lower bound of healthy weight even further for someone of above average height. Quote I have problems with high appetite and binge eating how do I solve this? I have been going over 3000 calories for many days.I'm taking an appetite-boosting medication This is called extreme hunger and happens to most eating disorder survivors. It will remain as long as you are underweight and go away with time if you continue eating and gaining weight. Edited December 16, 2019 by Mikii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 I am taking Vitamin C 1000 mg 1x daily and I think this may increase the risk of heart attack and stroke as it calculates the kidney which increases the blood pressure but I think it decreases the risk of cancer because I will have a fast tonsillitis. I will make a living by taking vitamin C and is there an antioxidant that gives me more years of life I have no relatives on the maternal side with heart and kidney problems, the paternal side only know my father who has a healthy kidney and heart, the oldest relatives are my maternal grandmother of 82 years and my maternal grandmother of 80 I'm 18 but have already given me 12, 14, 16 without beard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Put Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Fernando Gabriel said: I am taking Vitamin C 1000 mg 1x daily and I think this may increase the risk of heart attack and stroke as it calculates the kidney which increases the blood pressure but I think it decreases the risk of cancer because I will have a fast tonsillitis. I will make a living by taking vitamin C and is there an antioxidant that gives me more years of life I have no relatives on the maternal side with heart and kidney problems, the paternal side only know my father who has a healthy kidney and heart, the oldest relatives are my maternal grandmother of 82 years and my maternal grandmother of 80 I'm 18 but have already given me 12, 14, 16 without beard Oh, dude.... Or, should I say, oh Google Translate? Or, a confused bot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 14 hours ago, Ron Put said: Oh, dude.... Or, should I say, oh Google Translate? Or, a confused bot? I am taking Vitamin C 1000 mg once a day and I think this may increase the risk of heart attack and stroke as it causes kidney stones which can increase blood pressure but I think it decreases the risk of cancer because I have healed from tonsillitis fast. Is there a more potent antioxidant than vitamin c? And other than metformin because I don't want to die of hypoglycemia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted December 28, 2019 Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 Heck, man, you sound confused. 1000 mg vitamin C is not a megadose, ask your doctor if it can give any problems. The most potent antioxidants are those in natural, healthy food: fruit, vegetables, spices, nuts, EV olive oil... Metformin is for diabetic people. Other advantages are not scientifically proven to date. Forget about your obsessions and start being serious. You look like someone just out of a famine in the middle ages . You are 18, a man now, take some responsibility and start nourishing your body with healthy food, that's all which is necessary, beside some exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) Quote I am taking Vitamin C 1000 mg 1x daily and I think this may increase the risk of heart attack and stroke .... Is there a more potent antioxidant than vitamin c? And other than metformin because I don't want to die of hypoglycemia. 1000 mg is not a lot of vitamin C and just think about what you're saying... Why are you worried about a heart attack or stroke? You're 18 years old so it's extremely unlikely. What's more of an issue here is the possibility of developing an infection and losing even more weight. Trust me, you don't want to be knocked out with a bad case of the flu and not be able to eat for days. Plus, your body uses up a lot of energy trying to recover and fight it. This should be one of your main concerns, especially as it seems you're not getting adequate nutrition. At your age there is no need to take things to such extremes. Is there something else going on? You don't need metformin anyway. Edited December 29, 2019 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Matt said: 1000 mg is not a lot of vitamin C and just think about what you're saying... Why are you worried about a heart attack or stroke? You're 18 years old so it's extremely unlikely. What's more of an issue here is the possibility of developing an infection and losing even more weight. Trust me, you don't want to be knocked out with a bad case of the flu and not be able to eat for days. Plus, your body uses up a lot of energy trying to recover and fight it. This should be one of your main concerns, especially as it seems you're not getting adequate nutrition. At your age there is no need to take things to such extremes. Is there something else going on? You don't need metformin anyway. I am wondering if vitamin C prolongs or shortens life. How many% prolongation will I have if I take 1000 mg a day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) At this point I believe this poster is trolling Edited December 30, 2019 by Clinton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) If I take both sugar spoons from the latte my glucose will be how much? I have 77 glucose. Edited December 29, 2019 by Fernando Gabriel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Clinton, just think, would a troll be able to come up with such post? If he is, then he deserves his fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccoy Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Fernando Gabriel said: If I take both sugar spoons from the latte my glucose will be how much? I have 77 glucose. Just make your own latte with dark honey, instead of sugar. As to the glucose, it probably will rise to 78 mg/dL. I don't know if you're willing to take the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserReqDel20200217 Posted December 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, mccoy said: Just make your own latte with dark honey, instead of sugar. As to the glucose, it probably will rise to 78 mg/dL. I don't know if you're willing to take the risk. I'm eating meat fat to satiate myself with less calories, but I often eat the food others give me politely because I'm afraid they think I'm developing a second anorexia, if I keep eating without hunger I will get fat with aging, my nutritionists and my psychologist told me that I can maintain 123 lbs because I am healthy and this is my goal, how should I proceed in this case? Edited December 30, 2019 by Fernando Gabriel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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