Vaccine risks, injury and related topics

[Saul]

http://view.societyforscience-email.com/?qs=a9eaec5cb4649082cc5da4df859daa4e8c7f29026337b457e9add7120c46cdd12461bc2ed8de81ac405dc6cf7f60944a069ac4665935b348aa152faeda3efca5cffad850f8b67782c44a23a6e8baacf7

[KHashmi317]

`From the world's most popular, most-followed podcast:

Jimmy Dore's Experience with Vaccine Side Effects

 

[Sibiriak]

KHashmi317,  do you happen to know what  medical condition Dore has that motivated him to get vaccinated?

[KHashmi317]

3 hours ago, Sibiriak said:

KHashmi317,  do you happen to know what  medical condition Dore has that motivated him to get vaccinated?

No idea -- probably some "co-morbidity". But if latest CDC data is correct (see my earlier post), then many co-morbidities are not a big issue, either. That is, Dore does not LOOK obese (one of the MAJOR co-morbidities), etc.

[Mike41]

On 7/28/2021 at 2:12 PM, Saul said:

http://view.societyforscience-email.com/?qs=a9eaec5cb4649082cc5da4df859daa4e8c7f29026337b457e9add7120c46cdd12461bc2ed8de81ac405dc6cf7f60944a069ac4665935b348aa152faeda3efca5cffad850f8b67782c44a23a6e8baacf7

Thanks Saul, Good stuff here. I especially enjoyed Katherine Wu’s articles. They were quite satisfying for the simple reason that I have not shorn my mask since getting vaccinated. Now I feel quite vindicated, ha ha! 

[KHashmi317]

From Indonesia's mainstream new channel ... Eagle News ...

Perhaps as Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche has been warning about for several months ...

Over a dozen vaccinated doctors dead as Indonesia's virus cases surge

 

[KHashmi317]

6-month study data of Pfizer's covid vaccine is just in ... 

 

The long-awaited 6-month follow up data for the Pfizer vaccine is finally in.  The good news is that the jab prevents serious Covid.  The less good news is that the data is poorly presented and shared and so we don’t know which age groups benefit the most, who’s most at risk, which comorbidities fared the best/worst, how serious the vaccine adverse events were or even what the categories of adverse events were.

We deserve much better information than this.

This data was gathered pre-Delta variant so we rather expect a follow up report to be much less favorable overall, but still could/would make perfect sense for some to rationally opt for getting the vaccine.  Of course, having better age-stratified data inked to actual parameters of interest (sex, morbidities, viral titers, etc.) would make such determinations a lot easier to make.

[Ron Put]

The Delta variant is more contagious, but also has a mortality rate of 0.1%, the same as the flu in an average year.

The vaccines are very effective against it, much more so than any flu vaccine has ever been.

Those who have been infected and recovered exhibit robust immunity, much higher than immunity against faster mutating viruses such as influenza. Again, people who were infected with SARS-1 have immunity against SARS-2 more than a decade later.

To me, it seems that the relentless fearmongering about the variants is driven by politics, sensationalism, and money -- Pfizer will make billions on booster shots. Pfizer has great political clout -- Biden's campaign chairman was one of Pfizer's main lobbyists (and repaid the favor by snubbing Trump after Pfizer got a "favorite nation" deal on the scarce vaccine raw materials).

[KHashmi317]

17 hours ago, Ron Put said:

The vaccines are very effective against it, much more so than any flu vaccine has ever been.
 

So is the HOLY TRINITY:

DIET - EXERCISE - SLEEP

But I also like the personal prayer scripture:

"Jesus H. Christ"

;-)

[KHashmi317]

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Rebel Wisdom's film, "Ivermectin, Yes or No" has been taken down by YouTube, labelled as "medical misinformation". This is despite us featuring both sides of the argument, with Ivermectin advocate Tess Lawrie matched with two skeptics, Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz and Graham Walker MD.

Rebel Wisdom is appealing the decision, but this illustrates all the serious problems with the alternative media landscape we have been talking about.

The original film is now uploaded to Bitchute, check David's Twitter @fullydavid and also check out our full briefing document on Ivermectin: https://medium.com/rebel-wisdom/ivermectin-for-and-against-briefing-document-2f5c28539dc

 

[KHashmi317]

Not Instagram influencers ... this is on the BBC News official web site .... PFFFFFFFFFFFTT.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-58004253

 

[AlPater]

NEW
BioNTech shares surge as vaccine-maker's profits soar on booming outlook
German pharmaceutical maker BioNTech, which developed the first widely used coronavirus vaccine with Pfizer, swung to a huge profit in the second quarter on record sales.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/biontech-earnings-1.6134619

[Mike41]

5 hours ago, AlPater said:

NEW
BioNTech shares surge as vaccine-maker's profits soar on booming outlook
German pharmaceutical maker BioNTech, which developed the first widely used coronavirus vaccine with Pfizer, swung to a huge profit in the second quarter on record sales.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/biontech-earnings-1.6134619

Good for them and why I believe in capitalism. Greed motivates. I also feel that capitalism needs some regulation of course like a carbon tax for example. If that happened the capitalists would turn the world quickly toward green energy, you can bank on it. IOWS steer capitalism for the social good.

[KHashmi317]

On 8/9/2021 at 1:42 PM, Mike41 said:

Good for them and why I believe in capitalism. Greed motivates. I also feel that capitalism needs some regulation of course like a carbon tax for example. If that happened the capitalists would turn the world quickly toward green energy, you can bank on it. IOWS steer capitalism for the social good.

The overall issue is not clear and nuanced ... BIG PHARMA'S Ties To The FDA Should Be Questioned

 

[Ron Put]

12 hours ago, KHashmi317 said:

The overall issue is not clear and nuanced ... BIG PHARMA'S Ties To The FDA Should Be Questioned

Sure they are connected. And while Biontech has close ties to the German government, Pfizer has close ties to the Biden Administration -- their biggest lobbyist was the chairman of the Biden campaign. Pfizer been receiving state preferences in the procurement of scarce components and the FDA will ram through full approval of their vaccine, which would be unprecedented. And it will allow the Democrats to mandate the then officially "safe" vaccine for the reluctant.

At the same time, approvals of their cheaper and more conventional competitors are being held up.

Edited August 12, 2021 by Ron Put

[corybroo]

Isn’t the foreign government support for the anti-vax movement suspect?

WSJ:  Russian Disinformation Campaign Aims to Undermine Confidence in Pfizer, Other Covid-19 Vaccines

NCBI:  Weaponized Health Communication: Twitter Bots and Russian Trolls Amplify the Vaccine Debate

BBC:  The YouTubers who blew the whistle on an anti-vax plot

 

 

Even before covid-19, the BBC reported on Russian anti vax support in June 2019

How anti-vaccine movements threaten global health

Before the mRNA vaccines were available, the rumor that vaccines changed your DNA was being promulgated.  Another fear that has now be recycled been recycled for a new day.

 

To be sure, there are conflicts of interest in our medical-government complex:

Congress invests big in pharmaceutical, tech stocks

(If you want to invest like a Congressperson, the above article lists their popular investments.)

[KHashmi317]

To get  potentially more-accurate info on vaccines and safety, there may be a workaround.  Pets, livestock and lab animals...

Let's do pets first...

Start here: https://wsava.org/global-guidelines/vaccination-guidelines/

... and then move on to ... 

https://www.homevet.com/the-science-of-vaccine-damage/

https://vitalanimal.com/vaccine-injury/

https://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/vaccines-and-brain-damage/

https://www.germanshepherdrescue.co.uk/vaccine-damage-dogs-i-477.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_vaccine_reactions_in_pet

 

Edited August 12, 2021 by KHashmi317

[Mike41]

14 hours ago, Ron Put said:

Sure they are connected. And while Biontech has close ties to the German government, Pfizer has close ties to the Biden Administration -- their biggest lobbyist was the chairman of the Biden campaign. Pfizer been receiving state preferences in the procurement of scarce components and the FDA will ram through full approval of their vaccine, which would be unprecedented. And it will allow the Democrats to mandate the then officially "safe" vaccine for the reluctant.

At the same time, approvals of their cheaper and more conventional competitors are being held up.

It was Trump who paid for the vaccines with tax dollars. Operation Warp Speed. Which I think was a good idea, but why blame Biden???

[Todd Allen]

Infection-enhancing anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies recognize both the original Wuhan/D614G strain and Delta variants. A potential risk for mass vaccination?

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Antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) of infection is a safety concern for vaccine strategies. In a recent publication, Li et al. (Cell 184 :4203–4219, 2021) have reported that infection-enhancing antibodies directed against the N-terminal domain (NTD) of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein facilitate virus infection in vitro, but not in vivo. However, this study was performed with the original Wuhan/D614G strain. Since the Covid-19 pandemic is now dominated with Delta variants, we analyzed the interaction of facilitating antibodies with the NTD of these variants. Using molecular modeling approaches, we show that enhancing antibodies have a higher affinity for Delta variants than for Wuhan/D614G NTDs. We show that enhancing antibodies reinforce the binding of the spike trimer to the host cell membrane by clamping the NTD to lipid raft microdomains. This stabilizing mechanism may facilitate the conformational change that induces the demasking of the receptor binding domain. As the NTD is also targeted by neutralizing antibodies, our data suggest that the balance between neutralizing and facilitating antibodies in vaccinated individuals is in favor of neutralization for the original Wuhan/D614G strain. However, in the case of the Delta variant, neutralizing antibodies have a decreased affinity for the spike protein, whereas facilitating antibodies display a strikingly increased affinity. Thus, ADE may be a concern for people receiving vaccines based on the original Wuhan strain spike sequence (either mRNA or viral vectors). Under these circumstances, second generation vaccines with spike protein formulations lacking structurally-conserved ADE-related epitopes should be considered.

 

[Sibiriak]

 

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Antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) is a potential concern...

But not an actual concern at the moment,  as the paper points out:

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the ability of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies to mediate infection enhancement in vivo has never been formally demonstrated.

 

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 ...the results obtained so far have been rather reassuring

 

Most importantly,   the current vaccines appear to be very effective against the Delta variant in regards to hospitalization and death.

 

New vaccines based on mutant strains are under development, but there doesn't seem to be an urgent need for them at the moment.

 

Edited August 22, 2021 by Sibiriak

[Saul]

Well said, Sibiriak!

  --  Saul

 

[KHashmi317]

This info cannot be found via Google search engine ... used DuckDuckGo ...

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Oxford University study finds fully vaccinated Healthcare workers carry 251 times viral load compared to the unvaccinated proving the Covid-19 jabs make you worse

A groundbreaking preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, includes alarming findings devastating to the COVID vaccine rollout. 

 

https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/08/24/oxford-university-study-finds-fully-vaccinated-healthcare-workers-carry-251-times-viral-load-compared-to-the-unvaccinated/

Preprints with The Lancet is part of SSRN´s First Look, a place where journals identify content of interest prior to publication.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733

[KHashmi317]

The Lancet study -- in my last post -- is mostly nonsense. 

The pop-quiz/homework assignment is to figure out why it's nonsense.

[Sibiriak]

 

Fact Check- Study did not find vaccinated healthcare workers carry 251 times the viral load of those who were unvaccinated

Edited August 29, 2021 by Sibiriak

[Dean Pomerleau]

1 hour ago, KHashmi317 said:

The Lancet study -- in my last post -- is mostly nonsense. 

The pop-quiz/homework assignment is to figure out why it's nonsense.

No, the study and the Lancet preprint about it are fine. It simply shows what we already know, namely that it is possible to get infected with Delta even if you are vaccinated, such breakthrough delta infections are most often mild and infections with Delta result in a much higher viral load in the nasal cavity than previous variants whether you are vaccinated or not.

The obvious nonsense was the article you posted about the study, which falsely claims that breakthrough infections had a higher viral load in vaccinated people than infections in non-vaccinated people and bogusly suggests that the high viral load in vaccinated people was due to the vaccine and not the fact that the comparison in the study was done between recent breakthrough infections with Delta in vaccinated individuals and people who were infected last year with the original variant (when vaccines weren't available) which produced a much lower viral load.

What this shows is that there are a lot of bamboozled and/or duplicitous anti-vax folks who can't or won't read scientific studies carefully enough to understand and/or honestly convey their findings but instead misconstrue them in articles and posts on the internet to serve their anti-vax agenda. This fact is also something that has become abundantly clear.

--Dean