Just curious, anyone have a plan, or preps for global pandemic?

[Todd Allen]

16 hours ago, Ron Put said:

Conclusion Plant-based and mainly vegetarian diets were associated with a lower incidence of COVID-19 infection. These dietary patterns may be considered protective against COVID-19 infection."

Throughout the pandemic and for a couple year prior my diet has been mostly fatty red meat, eggs, fish and full fat dairy with plant sourced foods largely limited to spices, herbs and small amounts of fruits and veg to make sauces, salsa, etc.  Despite intentionally not masking or social distancing whenever possible or taking any other prophylactic measures such as vaccines or horse paste I have had no significant sickness requiring more than wiping my nose once or twice.  A 39% lower risk of what was apparently essentially zero would be difficult to measure with significance.

Edited January 20 by Todd Allen

[Ron Put]

On 1/20/2024 at 10:21 AM, Todd Allen said:

A 39% lower risk of what was apparently essentially zero would be difficult to measure with significance

You are right about the relatively minor risks, of course. But you are also a somewhat special case, and you engage in a host of other health-promoting practices.

39% lower risk projected over a large population does likely matter, and that applies not only to coronaviruses. Focusing on specific exceptions is a bit like pointing to the fact that Calment smoked until she was 119 or whatever, and claiming that smoking has no adverse health effects.

[Todd Allen]

On 1/24/2024 at 10:48 AM, Ron Put said:

Focusing on specific exceptions is a bit like pointing to the fact that Calment smoked until she was 119

She stopped smoking and then died just a few years later...  Temporality may be essential for causal inference but it is not sufficient.   And while there are a huge number of studies showing risk reducing benefits of nicotine for ailments of advanced age such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's suggesting diseases of aging may merely be nicotine deficiency syndrome I am not ready to blame her death on giving up smoking.  Myself having never smoked at all I hope elevated cholesterol is sufficient to ameliorate nicotine deficiency syndrome.

[Ron Put]

6 hours ago, Todd Allen said:

showing risk reducing benefits of nicotine for ailments of advanced age such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's suggesting diseases of aging may merely be nicotine deficiency syndrome I am not ready to blame her death on giving up smoking. 

I am still rolling on the floor. LOL, exactly what the CDC ordered, behind the masks. This thread really needs some lightening up. Thanks! (No sarcasm :D)

[Ron Put]

 

[BrianA]

COVID-19 virus can stay in the body more than a year after infection

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/03/240308165037.htm

[BrianA]

‘Alarming’ rise in Americans with long Covid symptoms

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/15/long-covid-symptoms-cdc

 

COVID-19 Leaves Its Mark on the Brain. Significant Drops in IQ Scores Are Noted

Research shows that even mild COVID-19 can lead to the equivalent of seven years of brain aging

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-19-leaves-its-mark-on-the-brain-significant-drops-in-iq-scores-are/

[Gordo]

On 3/15/2024 at 1:20 PM, BrianA said:

Alarming’ rise in Americans with long Covid symptoms

My brother who is only age 52 just had to get a pacemaker, he says his heart problems started right after getting Covid. I hadn't heard of this link but a quick search turned up:

https://news.weill.cornell.edu/news/2022/04/are-covid-19-linked-arrhythmias-caused-by-viral-damage-to-the-heart’s-pacemaker-cells

My wife and son just got Covid for the second time by the way, and it was just as bad as the first time they had it (my son was in bed for 4 days). I tried my best to stay away from them, dropping off food at their doors and getting away 😂. I managed to avoid it. This version did not cause much coughing or sneezing, mostly fever, sore throat, fatigue. Super bright positive on the pcr test though.

Edited March 22 by Gordo

[Dean Pomerleau]

That sucks Gordo. Give M* my best and tell her that I hope she and your son recover quickly. 

[Gordo]

5 hours ago, Dean Pomerleau said:

That sucks Gordo. Give M* my best and tell her that I hope she and your son recover quickly. 

Thanks.  This was 2 weeks back, so they are fully recovered now and so far no one else in the family got it.  It does make me think about vaccines again though.

[BrianA]

Director of the NIH, regarding long covid:

 

"We see evidence of persistent live virus in humans in various tissue reservoirs, including surrounding nerves, the brain, the GI [gastrointestinal] tract, to the lung."

"The virus can persist in tissues for months, perhaps even years."

 

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/faustfiles/109672

[BrianA]

COVID-19 Virus Can Persist in the Body More Than a Year after Infection

https://polybio.org/covid-19-virus-can-persist-in-the-body-more-than-a-year-after-infection/

 

"Research published today in Lancet Infectious Disease and supported by PolyBio Research Foundation provides the strongest evidence yet that the COVID virus can persist for months or years after infection. The findings, published by a UC San Francisco/Harvard Medical School team, found that proteins created by the virus were still present for up to 14 months in a quarter of people tested."

[BrianA]

Keeping an eye on the latest bird flu/H5N1 news. It is now confirmed to be spreading cow to cow on various farms in the US, to at least 1 person, and also spreading to and killing off related barn cats who drink cow milk. Anyone in the US drinking unpasteurized milk is rolling the dice right now.

[mccoy]

On 4/16/2024 at 10:54 PM, BrianA said:

COVID-19 Virus Can Persist in the Body More Than a Year after Infection

https://polybio.org/covid-19-virus-can-persist-in-the-body-more-than-a-year-after-infection/

 

"Research published today in Lancet Infectious Disease and supported by PolyBio Research Foundation provides the strongest evidence yet that the COVID virus can persist for months or years after infection. The findings, published by a UC San Francisco/Harvard Medical School team, found that proteins created by the virus were still present for up to 14 months in a quarter of people tested."

The so-called long covid effect. There might also be some sensitizing effect that does not include the persistence of infection, I'm just wildly hypothesizing, but my experience is that after exhibiting the signs of infection (and testing positive) in August 2022, I started having too frequent problems in the upper respiratory ways, especially a running nose, which I very seldom had previously. Mere association or true causation? 

Edited April 23 by mccoy

[corybroo]

On 4/21/2024 at 10:20 AM, BrianA said:

Keeping an eye on the latest bird flu/H5N1 news.

As of today, there are two human cases that appear to have different transmission routes:

H5N1 Bird Flu: Current Situation Summary

· Total Reported Human Cases in the United States: 2 (since 2022)

• 1 following exposure to dairy cows (reported on 4/01/2024) | Full Report >
• 1 following exposure to poultry (reported on 4/28/2022) | Full Report >

·  States with Reported Case(s): 2

 

[BrianA]

Emerging evidence sars-cov-2 can persistently infect bone marrow, similar to HIV, and create infected platelets, which in turn may be an explanation for long covid:

 

https://www.croiconference.org/abstract/persistence-of-sars-cov-2-in-platelets-and-megakaryocytes-in-long-covid/

 

 

[BrianA]

Metformin reduces covid length of time and viral load, cuts risk of hospitalization or death by about 50%:

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/common-diabetes-drug-lowers-sars-cov-2-levels-clinical-trial-finds

[Gordo]

New evidence has emerged recently about the Covid origins coverup and it's looking very bad for all involved, this was discussed starting at the 18:41 mark of the All In podcast

Also covered by lots of mainstream media: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/02/fauci-covid-research-investigative-panel-00161109