InquilineKea Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412021006498?via%3Dihub ^this is really bad. I never expected the effect sizes to be this big Quote Interestingly, although intake of low-pesticide residue FV was inversely related to mortality from causes other than CVD, cancer and respiratory diseases, combined (Table 2), mortality from neurological diseases was unrealated to intake of intake of either low- or high-pesticide residue FVs. ^that said, neurological diseases are like, really the only thing that matter for many of us who just WON'T die from CVD or cancer... (but more from weakness/low FEV1/sarcopenia => I wish they had healthspan data more detailed than mortality data for this) Edited January 1 by InquilineKea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquilineKea Posted December 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 But look at multivariate-adjusted thing for OTHER causes of mortality for HIGH FV-intake... (the cases are really low at the highest FV intake levels relevant to us) Other causes of death (n = 14,222)5 Cases 6,516 5,682 1,575 337 112 Age-adjusted 1 (Ref.) 0.69(0.66, 0.71) 0.59(0.56, 0.63) 0.63(0.56, 0.70) 0.63(0.52, 0.76) <0.0001 Multivariable-adjusted1, 2 1 (Ref.) 0.96(0.92, 1.00) 0.94(0.88, 1.02) 1.10(0.97, 1.25) 1.17(1.09, 1.25) 0.78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordo Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 Interesting conclusion, here's a paper that reached a slightly different conclusion although still agrees to some extent: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike41 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 My take on it is simple. If you can afford the extra cost EAT ORGANIC! Why piss around with all kinds of chemicals. Who really knows what they do to us. If ya can’t afford the extra cost do a 2% salt solution and wash your stuff that’s not peelable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Pesticides are used on organic foods -- just organic pesticides (less toxic than those used on "inorganic" (pun) vegetables. (But I love my fresh organic Nappa cabbage when available in my area; tastes better than everyday Nappa). -- Saul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordo Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanPater Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 12/17/2021 at 5:40 PM, Mike41 said: My take on it is simple. If you can afford the extra cost EAT ORGANIC! Why piss around with all kinds of chemicals. Who really knows what they do to us. If ya can’t afford the extra cost do a 2% salt solution and wash your stuff that’s not peelable. https://www.consumerreports.org/pesticides-herbicides/easy-way-to-remove-pesticides-a3616455263/ gave some pretty good suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquilineKea Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8196593/ They affect the microbiome too... Not even EWG went for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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